{"id":8423,"date":"2015-12-01T15:39:10","date_gmt":"2015-12-01T15:39:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.revistarambla.com\/rajoy-pierde-el-debate-por-abandono\/"},"modified":"2021-04-11T17:54:06","modified_gmt":"2021-04-11T15:54:06","slug":"rajoy-pierde-el-debate-por-abandono","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.revistarambla.com\/en\/rajoy-pierde-el-debate-por-abandono\/","title":{"rendered":"Rajoy pierde el debate por abandono"},"content":{"rendered":"

El diario El Pa\u00eds<\/em> organiz\u00f3 el primer debate digital de la Historia de Espa\u00f1a entre los candidatos a las elecciones presidenciales del pr\u00f3ximo 20 de diciembre, Albert Rivera (Ciudadanos), Pedro S\u00e1nchez (Socialistas) y Pablo Iglesias (Podemos). El presidente y l\u00edder del Partido Popular, Mariano Rajoy, no particip\u00f3 porque solo est\u00e1 dispuesto a enfrentarse al PSOE, su viejo rival.<\/p>\n

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El primer gran<\/span> debate entre<\/span> los cuatro<\/span> candidatos<\/span> que<\/span> se disputan<\/span> la presidencia<\/span> de Espa\u00f1a<\/span> el pr\u00f3ximo<\/span> 20 de diciembre<\/span> fue<\/span> de a tres<\/span>. El actual jefe<\/span> del Ejecutivo<\/span> y l\u00edder<\/span> del Partido<\/span> Popular (PP), Mariano Rajoy<\/span>, prefiri\u00f3<\/span> no acudir<\/span> al espacio<\/span> de dos horas<\/span> que<\/span> el diario<\/span> El Pa\u00eds<\/span> organiz\u00f3<\/span> en su<\/span> edici\u00f3n<\/span> digital – el primer debate por<\/span> internet de la historia<\/span> espa\u00f1ola<\/span>– y les dej\u00f3<\/span> cancha<\/span> libre<\/span> a sus<\/span> opositores<\/span> tanto<\/span> para<\/span> que<\/span> presentaran<\/span> sus<\/span> propuestas<\/span> como<\/span> para<\/span> que<\/span> arremetieran<\/span> sin descanso<\/span> contra sus<\/span> \u00faltimos<\/span> cuatro<\/span> a\u00f1os<\/span> de gesti\u00f3n<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\u00abA dos, es<\/span> como<\/span> son los debates importantes<\/span>\u00ab, argumentaba<\/span> Rajoy<\/span> sobre<\/span> su<\/span> decisi\u00f3n<\/span> de elegir<\/span> una<\/span> sola<\/span> contienda<\/span> televisiva<\/span> de entre<\/span> las<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> de 30 propuestas<\/span> que<\/span> recibi\u00f3<\/span> su<\/span> equipo<\/span>. \u201cTodos<\/span> los debates en democracia<\/span> han<\/span> sido<\/span> entre<\/span> el presidente<\/span> del Gobierno<\/span> y el l\u00edder<\/span> de la oposici\u00f3n<\/span>\u00ab, insist\u00eda<\/span>, y mientras<\/span> sus<\/span> principales<\/span> contrincantes<\/span> hac\u00edan<\/span> arder<\/span> las<\/span> redes<\/span> sociales<\/span> con su<\/span> acalorada<\/span> discusi\u00f3n<\/span> en El Pa\u00eds<\/span>, el presidente<\/span> espa\u00f1ol<\/span> conced\u00eda<\/span> en solitario<\/span> una<\/span> entrevista<\/span> a la televisi\u00f3n<\/span> privada<\/span> Telecinco<\/span> para<\/span> defender sin riesgos<\/span> su<\/span> programa<\/span>.<\/p>\n

Vieja<\/span> y nueva<\/span> pol\u00edtica<\/span>, al menos<\/span> en las<\/span> formas<\/span>. El se\u00f1or<\/span> Rajoy<\/span> mantiene<\/span> a ultranza<\/span> las<\/span> maneras<\/span> tradicionales<\/span>, los \u201cchicos<\/span> guapos<\/span> y j\u00f3venes\u201d<\/span> que<\/span> le pelean<\/span> el cargo ya<\/span> no saben<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> que<\/span> hacer<\/span> para<\/span> romperlas<\/span>. Albert Rivera, l\u00edder<\/span> de Ciudadanos<\/span> (C’S), Pablo Iglesias, de Podemos<\/span>, y Pedro S\u00e1nchez<\/span>, secretario<\/span> general de los socialistas<\/span> (PSOE<\/span>) protagonizaron<\/span> un debate que<\/span>, por<\/span> su<\/span> formato<\/span> digital, es<\/span> in\u00e9dito<\/span> en la democracia<\/span> espa\u00f1ola<\/span> pero<\/span> que<\/span>, por<\/span> su<\/span> contenido<\/span>, no dist\u00f3<\/span> demasiado<\/span> de lo que<\/span> la ciudadan\u00eda<\/span> viene<\/span> viendo<\/span> en campa\u00f1as<\/span> anteriores<\/span>. Las caras<\/span> son m\u00e1s<\/span> joviales<\/span>, tambi\u00e9n<\/span> los looks<\/em>– no as\u00ed<\/span> el de Albert Rivera, que<\/span> visti\u00f3<\/span> un traje<\/span> azul<\/span> al mejor<\/span> estilo<\/span> \u201cpepero\u201d<\/span>– pero<\/span> los reproches<\/span>, los golpes<\/span> bajos<\/span>, los trapos<\/span> sucios<\/span> y la falta<\/span> de escucha<\/span> a los que<\/span> la pol\u00edtica<\/span> espa\u00f1ola<\/span> est\u00e1<\/span> tan acostumbrada<\/span> siguen<\/span> ah\u00ed<\/span>, anclados<\/span>, pese<\/span> a los nuevos<\/span> aires<\/span>.<\/p>\n

Los m\u00e1s<\/span> duros<\/span> golpes<\/span> fue<\/span> el l\u00edder<\/span> de los socialistas<\/span> quien<\/span> los recibi\u00f3<\/span>. En este<\/span> binomio<\/span> \u201cvieja<\/span>\/ nueva<\/span> pol\u00edtica\u201d<\/span> que<\/span> est\u00e1<\/span> marcando<\/span> la carrera<\/span> hacia<\/span> la presidencia<\/span>, hay un claro<\/span> exponente<\/span> del antiguo<\/span> modelo<\/span>, que<\/span> es<\/span> Mariano Rajoy<\/span>, y dentro<\/span> del bloque<\/span> de los que<\/span> claman<\/span> por<\/span> el cambio<\/span>, tambi\u00e9n<\/span>, Pedro S\u00e1nchez<\/span>. Ambos<\/span> representan<\/span> el bipartidismo<\/span> que<\/span> gobierna<\/span> a Espa\u00f1a<\/span> desde<\/span> 1978 y al que<\/span> tanto<\/span> Albert Rivera como<\/span> Pablo Iglesias pretenden<\/span> fracturar<\/span> por<\/span> considerarlo<\/span> una<\/span> de las<\/span> principales<\/span> causas<\/span> de la crisis democr\u00e1tica<\/span> que<\/span> vive el pa\u00eds<\/span>. S\u00e1nchez<\/span> se defendi\u00f3<\/span> de \u201clos nuevos\u201d<\/span> convencido<\/span> de haber<\/span> levantado<\/span> junto<\/span> a su<\/span> partido<\/span>– el que<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> tiempo<\/span> gobern\u00f3<\/span> en Espa\u00f1a<\/span>, tal<\/span> como<\/span> apunt\u00f3<\/span> el candidato<\/span> socialista<\/span> a lo largo del encuentro<\/span>– el Estado<\/span> de bienestar<\/span>.<\/p>\n

Los tres<\/span> l\u00edderes<\/span> debatieron<\/span> durante<\/span> 90 minutos<\/span> sobre<\/span> cinco<\/span> bloques<\/span> tem\u00e1ticos<\/span> (la amenaza<\/span> yihadista<\/span>; econom\u00eda<\/span> y empleo<\/span>; pol\u00edtica<\/span> social y estado<\/span> de bienestar<\/span>; pol\u00edtica<\/span> territorial; y reformas<\/span> y regeneraci\u00f3n<\/span> pol\u00edtica<\/span>), moderados<\/span> por<\/span> el periodista<\/span> Carlos de Vega e interpelados<\/span> tambi\u00e9n<\/span>, al final de cada<\/span> bloque<\/span>, por<\/span> miembros<\/span> del p\u00fablico<\/span>. Las discrepancias<\/span> pudieron<\/span> verse ya<\/span> desde<\/span> los primeros<\/span> minutos<\/span>, cuando<\/span> la discusi\u00f3n<\/span> gir\u00f3<\/span> en torno<\/span> a a posibilidad<\/span> de que<\/span> Espa\u00f1a<\/span> intervenga<\/span> en un conflicto<\/span> b\u00e9lico<\/span> entre<\/span> Siria<\/span> y Libia<\/span>, en respuesta<\/span> a los pedidos<\/span> de apoyo<\/span> del presidente<\/span> franc\u00e9s<\/span> Fran\u00e7ois<\/span> Hollande<\/span>. Pablo Iglesias fue<\/span> el \u00fanico<\/span> que<\/span> se opuso<\/span> tajantemente<\/span> a la intervenci\u00f3n<\/span> militar<\/span>, recordando<\/span> que<\/span> los bombardeos<\/span> no sirvieron<\/span> para<\/span> nada en Afganist\u00e1n<\/span>, Siria<\/span>, Yemen o Irak<\/span> y comprometi\u00e9ndose<\/span> a celebrar<\/span> un refer\u00e9ndum<\/span> antes de actuar<\/span>, mientras<\/span> que<\/span> sus<\/span> contrincantes<\/span> respaldar\u00edan<\/span> a Francia<\/span> sin dudarlo<\/span>.<\/p>\n

El segundo<\/span> momento<\/span> de tensi\u00f3n<\/span> se vivi\u00f3<\/span> durante<\/span> el bloque<\/span> dedicado<\/span> a la econom\u00eda<\/span>, donde<\/span> el \u00fanico<\/span> punto<\/span> acordado<\/span> entre<\/span> los tres<\/span> fue<\/span> el de la derogaci\u00f3n<\/span> de la reforma<\/span> laboral<\/span> promulgada<\/span> por<\/span> el PP, causa<\/span>– en opini\u00f3n<\/span> un\u00e1nime<\/span> de los candidatos<\/span>– de la enorme<\/span> precariedad<\/span> del empleo<\/span> que<\/span> existe<\/span> hoy<\/span> en Espa\u00f1a<\/span>. El resto<\/span>, fueron<\/span> reproches<\/span> y cr\u00edticas<\/span> cruzadas<\/span>, sobre<\/span> todo<\/span>, hacia<\/span> el proyecto<\/span> de \u201ccontrato<\/span> \u00fanico\u201d<\/span> que<\/span> quiere<\/span> instaurar<\/span> el l\u00edder<\/span> de Ciudadanos<\/span>. \u00abEl modelo<\/span> laboral<\/span> ha sido<\/span> un fracaso<\/span>, el de Zapatero<\/span> y el de Rajoy<\/span>. No podemos<\/span> seguir<\/span> con contratos<\/span> basura<\/span>. Proponemos<\/span> un contrato<\/span> \u00fanico<\/span> para<\/span> todos<\/span> los trabajadores<\/span> donde<\/span> prime el esfuerzo\u201d<\/span>, explicaba<\/span> Rivera. Iglesias, por<\/span> su<\/span> parte<\/span>, apostaba<\/span> por<\/span> una<\/span> reforma<\/span> fiscal: \u00abHasta<\/span> ahora<\/span> han<\/span> propuesto<\/span> que<\/span> se apriete<\/span> el cintur\u00f3n<\/span> la gente<\/span>. Nosotros<\/span> proponemos<\/span> una<\/span> reforma<\/span> fiscal que<\/span> luche<\/span> en serio<\/span> contra el fraude<\/span>. Hay que<\/span> competir<\/span> por<\/span> arriba<\/span>, no por<\/span> abajo<\/span>\u00ab.<\/p>\n

Otro<\/span> punto<\/span> \u00e1lgido<\/span> del debate fue<\/span> el que<\/span> toc\u00f3<\/span> la cuesti\u00f3n<\/span> territorial, tema<\/span> especialmente<\/span> sensible en estos<\/span> momentos<\/span> de acusada<\/span> batalla<\/span> entre<\/span> los partidos<\/span> independentistas<\/span> catalanes<\/span> y los unionistas<\/span>. Para Albert Rivera, \u201ca Espa\u00f1a<\/span> no hay que<\/span> romperla<\/span>, hay que<\/span> reformarla<\/span>\u00ab; Iglesias, por<\/span> su<\/span> parte<\/span>, asegura<\/span> que<\/span> Podemos<\/span> son \u00ablos \u00fanicos<\/span> capaces<\/span> de asegurar<\/span> la unidad<\/span> del pa\u00eds<\/span>\u00bb y que<\/span> su<\/span> partido<\/span> est\u00e1<\/span> \u00abde acuerdo<\/span> en que<\/span> Catalu\u00f1a<\/span> defina<\/span> su<\/span> futuro<\/span> votando<\/span>\u00ab; y S\u00e1nchez<\/span> insisti\u00f3<\/span> con la propuesta<\/span> socialista<\/span> de \u201cuna<\/span> reforma<\/span> constitucional<\/span> que<\/span> vaya<\/span> a un Estado<\/span> federal\u00bb.<\/p>\n

Pero<\/span> una<\/span> vez<\/span> expuestas<\/span> las<\/span> ideas tal<\/span> como<\/span> lo ten\u00edan<\/span> estudiado<\/span>, la compostura<\/span> se perdi\u00f3<\/span> r\u00e1pidamente<\/span> y S\u00e1nchez<\/span> le lanz\u00f3<\/span> a Iglesias su<\/span> habitual artiller\u00eda<\/span> de tacharlo<\/span> de comunista<\/span>. \u00abEl \u00fanico<\/span> pa\u00eds<\/span> que<\/span> ha reconocido<\/span> el derecho<\/span> a la autodeterminaci\u00f3n<\/span> ha sido<\/span> la URSS<\/span>\u00ab, le dijo<\/span> el candidato<\/span> del PSOE<\/span> al de Podemos<\/span>. \u00abUh, qu\u00e9<\/span> miedo<\/span>\u00ab, le respondi\u00f3<\/span> Iglesias, recrimin\u00e1ndole<\/span> que<\/span> usara<\/span> \u00abargumentos<\/span> propios<\/span> de la caverna<\/span> medi\u00e1tica<\/span>\u00ab. Rivera no se qued\u00f3<\/span> atr\u00e1s<\/span> y atac\u00f3<\/span> al socialista<\/span>, acus\u00e1ndolo<\/span> de apoyar<\/span> el independentismo<\/span> en algunos<\/span> municipios<\/span> catalanes<\/span>, a lo que<\/span> S\u00e1nchez<\/span> salt\u00f3<\/span>, enfurecido<\/span>: \u00abNo me llames<\/span> independentista<\/span> porque<\/span> yo<\/span> no te<\/span> llamo<\/span> extrema<\/span> derecha<\/span>\u00ab.<\/p>\n

Distancias<\/span> insalvables<\/span> entre<\/span> los tres<\/span> candidatos<\/span> al mando<\/span> de un pa\u00eds<\/span> al que<\/span>, aunque<\/span> hacia<\/span> rumbos<\/span> muy<\/span> diferentes<\/span>, dicen<\/span> querer<\/span> darle<\/span> un giro de 180 grados<\/span>. Pero<\/span> no tan insalvable<\/span>, de momento<\/span>, como<\/span> la que<\/span> los separa<\/span> del cuarto<\/span> contrincante<\/span> ausente<\/span> en el debate de este<\/span> lunes<\/span> y en la mayor\u00eda<\/span> de los que<\/span> le seguir\u00e1n<\/span> durante<\/span> la campa\u00f1a<\/span>, el presidente<\/span> Mariano Rajoy<\/span>.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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