{"id":6518,"date":"2014-12-15T05:40:51","date_gmt":"2014-12-15T05:40:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.revistarambla.com\/las-elecciones-deben-hacerse-ya-porque-necesitamos-un-mandato-democratico-claro\/"},"modified":"2014-12-15T05:40:51","modified_gmt":"2014-12-15T05:40:51","slug":"las-elecciones-deben-hacerse-ya-porque-necesitamos-un-mandato-democratico-claro","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.revistarambla.com\/en\/las-elecciones-deben-hacerse-ya-porque-necesitamos-un-mandato-democratico-claro\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cLas elecciones deben hacerse ya porque necesitamos un mandato democr\u00e1tico claro\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"

\t\"alt\"Carme<\/span> Forcadell<\/span>, presidenta<\/span> de la Assemblea<\/span> Nacional<\/span> Catalana<\/span>, apuesta<\/span> por<\/span> una<\/span> candidatura<\/span> unitaria<\/span> transversal y comicios<\/span> inmediatos<\/span> y avisa<\/span> que<\/span> despu\u00e9s<\/span> del 9-N ellos<\/span> s\u00f3lo<\/span> pueden<\/span> “empujar<\/span> y presionar”<\/span> a los partidos<\/span>, que<\/span> son los que<\/span> deben<\/span> coger<\/span> la iniciativa<\/span>. Ante “la inexistencia<\/span> de argumentos<\/span> racionales”<\/span> contra la independencia<\/span>, que<\/span> concibe<\/span> como<\/span> una<\/span> cuesti\u00f3n<\/span> de “justicia<\/span> social”, asegura<\/span> que<\/span> la hoja<\/span> de ruta<\/span> de la entidad<\/span> pasa<\/span> por<\/span> ampliar<\/span> la mayor\u00eda<\/span> ciudadana<\/span> a favor del Estado<\/span> propio<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\tCarme<\/span> Forcadell<\/span>, presidenta<\/span> de la Assemblea<\/span> Nacional<\/span> Catalana<\/span>, apuesta<\/span> por<\/span> una<\/span> candidatura<\/span> unitaria<\/span> transversal y comicios<\/span> inmediatos<\/span> y avisa<\/span> que<\/span> despu\u00e9s<\/span> del 9-N ellos<\/span> s\u00f3lo<\/span> pueden<\/span> “empujar<\/span> y presionar”<\/span> a los partidos<\/span>, que<\/span> son los que<\/span> deben<\/span> coger<\/span> la iniciativa<\/span>. Ante “la inexistencia<\/span> de argumentos<\/span> racionales”<\/span> contra la independencia<\/span>, que<\/span> concibe<\/span> como<\/span> una<\/span> cuesti\u00f3n<\/span> de “justicia<\/span> social”, asegura<\/span> que<\/span> la hoja<\/span> de ruta<\/span> de la entidad<\/span> pasa<\/span> por<\/span> ampliar<\/span> la mayor\u00eda<\/span> ciudadana<\/span> a favor del Estado<\/span> propio<\/span>.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfQu\u00e9<\/span> piensa<\/span> cuando<\/span> escucha<\/span> a Rajoy<\/span> diciendo<\/span> que<\/span> una<\/span> de sus<\/span> prioridades<\/span> es<\/span> “hacer<\/span> que<\/span> el sentido<\/span> com\u00fan<\/span> llegue<\/span> a Mas”<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tNo escucho<\/span> demasiado<\/span> a Rajoy<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\tLas posturas<\/span> de Mas<\/span> y Junqueras<\/span> no est\u00e1n<\/span> cercanas<\/span>. \u00bfSus<\/span> propuestas<\/span> tienen<\/span> puntos<\/span> en com\u00fan<\/span>? \u00bfLa ANC se plantea<\/span> llegar<\/span> a ejercer<\/span> de mediadores<\/span> entre<\/span> los dos?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tPuntos<\/span> en com\u00fan<\/span> hay seguro<\/span>, porque<\/span> ambos<\/span> ven<\/span> que<\/span> este<\/span> proceso<\/span> no tiene<\/span> marcha<\/span> atr\u00e1s<\/span>, ambos<\/span> est\u00e1n<\/span> de acuerdo<\/span> que<\/span> lo que<\/span> quieren<\/span> es<\/span> conseguir<\/span> el m\u00e1ximo<\/span> de votos<\/span> soberanistas<\/span>, que<\/span> todos<\/span> los soberanistas<\/span> se puedan<\/span> sentir<\/span> representados<\/span>, ambos<\/span> quieren<\/span> un gobierno<\/span> de concentraci\u00f3n<\/span> nacional<\/span> para<\/span> tirar<\/span> adelante<\/span> el proceso<\/span> y ven<\/span> que<\/span> las<\/span> elecciones<\/span> tienen<\/span> que<\/span> hacerse<\/span> ya<\/span> porque<\/span> necesitamos<\/span> un mandato<\/span> democr\u00e1tico<\/span>. Sus<\/span> posturas<\/span> tienen<\/span> que<\/span> acercarse<\/span> y estoy<\/span> segura<\/span> que<\/span> as\u00ed<\/span> ser\u00e1<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfLista<\/span> \u00fanica<\/span> o listas<\/span> separadas<\/span>? \u00bfCu\u00e1l<\/span> es<\/span> la postura<\/span> de la Assemblea<\/span> en virtud<\/span> de la Declaraci\u00f3<\/span> de Cornell\u00e0<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tNosotros<\/span> queremos<\/span> una<\/span> lista<\/span> transversal que<\/span> incluya<\/span> todas<\/span> las<\/span> sensibilidades<\/span> del soberanismo<\/span>, no una<\/span> lista<\/span> CiU<\/span> y ERC<\/span>, eso<\/span> para<\/span> nosotros<\/span> no es<\/span> una<\/span> lista<\/span> unitaria<\/span> sino<\/span> una<\/span> suma<\/span> de dos partidos<\/span>, que<\/span> adem\u00e1s<\/span> no sumar\u00edan<\/span> lo suficiente<\/span>. Nosotros<\/span> trabajaremos<\/span> por<\/span> eso<\/span>, es<\/span> nuestra<\/span> prioridad<\/span> y que<\/span> los partidos<\/span> soberanistas<\/span> lleguen<\/span> a un acuerdo<\/span> lo antes posible<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfPara llegar<\/span> a este<\/span> acuerdo<\/span> falta<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> conciencia<\/span> de pa\u00eds<\/span>, menos<\/span> personalismos<\/span> y menos<\/span> visi\u00f3n<\/span> partidista<\/span>? Me refiero<\/span> a ICV-EUiA…<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tICV-EUiA<\/span> nunca<\/span> ha sido<\/span> un partido<\/span> soberanista<\/span>, aunque<\/span> haya<\/span> muchos<\/span> votantes<\/span> que<\/span> lo sean<\/span> y algunos<\/span> dirigentes<\/span> tambi\u00e9n<\/span> lo sean<\/span>, nunca<\/span> se han<\/span> definido<\/span> como<\/span> tal<\/span> y ahora<\/span> ser\u00e1<\/span> uno<\/span> de los partidos<\/span> que<\/span> tendr\u00e1n<\/span> un problema<\/span> porque<\/span> no s\u00e9<\/span> c\u00f3mo<\/span> afrontar\u00e1n<\/span> estas<\/span> elecciones<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfQu\u00e9<\/span> papel<\/span> ha de jugar<\/span> la ANC mientras<\/span> los partidos<\/span> soberanistas<\/span> discuten<\/span> y se ponen<\/span> de acuerdo<\/span>? Lo digo<\/span> porque<\/span> en la recta final hacia<\/span> el 9-N el “seny”<\/span> lo puso<\/span> la CUP, la formaci\u00f3n<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> pr\u00f3xima<\/span> a la calle…<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tNosotros<\/span> empujamos<\/span> y presionamos<\/span> para<\/span> que<\/span> lleguen<\/span> a un acuerdo<\/span>, como<\/span> hemos<\/span> hecho<\/span> siempre<\/span>, como<\/span> hicimos<\/span> para<\/span> tener<\/span> fecha<\/span> y pregunta<\/span>, como<\/span> hicimos<\/span> con el 9-N y ahora<\/span> tambi\u00e9n<\/span>. Estoy<\/span> de acuerdo<\/span> con eso<\/span> de la CUP, que<\/span> estuvo<\/span> a la altura<\/span> de las<\/span> circunstancias<\/span> y despu\u00e9s<\/span> los otros<\/span> se sumaron<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfQu\u00e9<\/span> candidato<\/span> preferir\u00edan<\/span> en una<\/span> lista<\/span> unitaria<\/span>? \u00bfO no se mojan<\/span> en esta<\/span> cuesti\u00f3n<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tNo, de momento<\/span> nosotros<\/span> estamos<\/span> intentando<\/span> que<\/span> los partidos<\/span> lleguen<\/span> a acuerdos<\/span>, la lista<\/span> unitaria<\/span> es<\/span> nuestra<\/span> hoja<\/span> de ruta<\/span>, pero<\/span> ahora<\/span> les toca<\/span> a ellos<\/span> coger<\/span> la iniciativa<\/span>, nosotros<\/span> trabajamos<\/span> mucho<\/span> para<\/span> el 9-N.<\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfSe cree<\/span> realmente<\/span> que<\/span> CiU<\/span> se haya<\/span> convertido<\/span> en un partido<\/span> realmente<\/span> independentista<\/span> o tiene<\/span> miedo<\/span> que<\/span> vuelva<\/span> la Ramoneta<\/span>? <\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tNo, no tenemos<\/span> miedo<\/span>, la Ramoneta<\/span> est\u00e1<\/span> ya<\/span> retirada<\/span> por<\/span> siempre<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span>, lo tenemos<\/span> clar\u00edsimo<\/span>. Por<\/span> otro<\/span> lado<\/span>, el pa\u00eds<\/span> no lo permitir\u00eda<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\tAhora<\/span> el reto<\/span> es<\/span> llenar<\/span> de contenido<\/span> concreto<\/span> el proyecto<\/span> independentista<\/span>, explicar<\/span> todos<\/span> los detalles<\/span> de c\u00f3mo<\/span> ser\u00eda<\/span> el nuevo<\/span> Estado<\/span> en todos<\/span> los \u00e1mbitos<\/span> para<\/span> convencer<\/span> el gran<\/span> n\u00famero<\/span> de indecisos<\/span>. \u00bfQu\u00e9<\/span> argumentos<\/span> usar\u00eda<\/span> para<\/span> convencerlos<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tEs<\/span> que<\/span> el problema<\/span> es<\/span> que<\/span> los del “no” no tienen<\/span> argumentos<\/span>. A nosotros<\/span> nos gustar\u00eda<\/span> que<\/span> pasara<\/span> lo mismo<\/span> que<\/span> en Escocia<\/span>, es<\/span> decir<\/span>, que<\/span> hubiera<\/span> un debate serio<\/span>, pero<\/span> los del “no” carecen<\/span> de argumentos<\/span> racionales<\/span>, s\u00f3lo<\/span> son amenazas<\/span>. Por<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> argumentos<\/span> que<\/span> demos, de tipo<\/span> pol\u00edtico<\/span>, social, econ\u00f3mico…cuando<\/span> llamas al otro<\/span> lado<\/span> no hay nadie<\/span> y ese<\/span> es<\/span> el problema<\/span>. Si los otros<\/span> no dan<\/span> argumentos<\/span>, no puedes<\/span> debatir<\/span>, ese<\/span> es<\/span> el drama. Nosotros<\/span> entendemos<\/span> que<\/span> no existen<\/span> argumentos<\/span> racionales<\/span> contra la independencia<\/span> y, en cambio<\/span>, argumentos<\/span> a favor hay much\u00edsimos<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfC\u00f3mo<\/span> por<\/span> ejemplo<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tLos que<\/span> quieras<\/span>, por<\/span> ejemplo<\/span> los dos m\u00e1s<\/span> recientes<\/span>: por<\/span> un lado<\/span>, el decreto<\/span> de pobreza<\/span> energ\u00e9tica<\/span>, que<\/span> Catalunya<\/span> no pueda<\/span> decidir<\/span> ni<\/span> sobre<\/span> sus<\/span> recursos<\/span> ni<\/span> decidir<\/span> c\u00f3mo<\/span> mejorar<\/span> la vida<\/span> de la gente<\/span>, es<\/span> un tema<\/span> social important\u00edsimo<\/span>, es<\/span> un decreto<\/span> que<\/span> no se ha podido<\/span> tirar<\/span> adelante<\/span> o que<\/span> tiraremos<\/span> adelante<\/span> pese<\/span> a la oposici\u00f3n<\/span> del gobierno<\/span> central. Y por<\/span> otro<\/span> lado<\/span>, el decreto<\/span> de horarios<\/span> comerciales<\/span>, la ley<\/span> catalana<\/span> que<\/span> lo regula<\/span> ha sido<\/span> llevada<\/span> al TC<\/span>. Si no podemos<\/span> decidir<\/span> ni<\/span> cuando<\/span> abrimos<\/span> o cerramos<\/span> nuestras<\/span> tiendas<\/span> ni<\/span> podemos<\/span> ayudar<\/span> a la gente<\/span> que<\/span> lo pasa<\/span> mal… entendemos<\/span> que<\/span> la independencia<\/span> es<\/span> un tema<\/span> de justicia<\/span> social por<\/span> encima<\/span> de todo<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfSe marcan<\/span> alg\u00fan<\/span> plazo<\/span> para<\/span> conseguir<\/span> la independencia<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tNo, entendemos<\/span> que<\/span> no se puede<\/span> parar<\/span> y que<\/span> tenemos<\/span> mucha<\/span> prisa<\/span> porque<\/span> es<\/span> un tema<\/span> de justicia<\/span> social, cuando<\/span> antes mejor<\/span> pero<\/span> no nos marcamos<\/span> un plazo<\/span> porque<\/span> las<\/span> cosas<\/span> necesitan<\/span> un tiempo<\/span>. Tenemos<\/span> mucha<\/span> prisa<\/span> para<\/span> disponer<\/span> de los recursos<\/span> para<\/span> ayudar<\/span> a nuestra<\/span> gente<\/span>, pero<\/span> como<\/span> no depende<\/span> solamente<\/span> de nosotros<\/span> sino<\/span> que<\/span> hay que<\/span> negociar<\/span>, no podemos<\/span> decir<\/span> un plazo<\/span> pero<\/span> no tiene<\/span> que<\/span> ser<\/span> demasiado<\/span> largo.<\/p>\n

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\tPero<\/span> los d\u00edas<\/span> van pasando<\/span> y si<\/span> la dependencia<\/span> y la crisis econ\u00f3mica<\/span> se prolongan<\/span> durante<\/span> mucho<\/span> tiempo<\/span> puede<\/span> suceder<\/span> que<\/span> al gobierno<\/span> espa\u00f1ol<\/span> ya<\/span> la interese<\/span> dejar<\/span> que<\/span> Catalunya<\/span> se marche<\/span> porque<\/span> estar\u00e1<\/span> hecha<\/span> trizas…<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tYo<\/span> creo<\/span> que<\/span> ahora<\/span> tenemos<\/span> mucha<\/span> prisa<\/span> pero<\/span> no somos<\/span> conscientes<\/span> de los avances<\/span> que<\/span> hemos<\/span> hecho<\/span>, la Asamblea<\/span> no tiene<\/span> ni<\/span> tres<\/span> a\u00f1os<\/span> de vida<\/span>, y hemos<\/span> hecho<\/span> un paso<\/span> de gigante<\/span>. Aunque<\/span> nos parezca<\/span> que<\/span> no vayamos<\/span> r\u00e1pido<\/span> porque<\/span> tenemos<\/span> prisa<\/span> y queremos<\/span> resolver nuestros<\/span> problemas<\/span>, hemos<\/span> avanzado<\/span> mucho<\/span> y eso<\/span> no tiene<\/span> marcha<\/span> atr\u00e1s<\/span>. Cada<\/span> vez<\/span> estaremos<\/span> peor<\/span>, m\u00e1s<\/span> ahogados<\/span> econ\u00f3micamente<\/span> y por<\/span> eso<\/span> cada<\/span> vez<\/span> habr\u00e1<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> presi\u00f3n<\/span> social para<\/span> conseguir<\/span> estos<\/span> instrumentos<\/span> y recursos<\/span>, una<\/span> cosa<\/span> va<\/span> ligada<\/span> a la otra<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\tLos catalanes<\/span> hemos<\/span> estado<\/span> demasiado<\/span> tiempo<\/span> poniendo<\/span> la otra<\/span> mejilla<\/span> como<\/span> buenos<\/span> samaritanos<\/span>, aguantando<\/span> sin rechistar<\/span> desprecios<\/span>, insultos<\/span>, agravios<\/span>, expolio<\/span> econ\u00f3mico<\/span>, cultural y ling\u00fc\u00edstico<\/span>. \u00bfPor<\/span> qu\u00e9<\/span> ha tardado<\/span> tanto<\/span> en surgir<\/span> una<\/span> entidad<\/span> como<\/span> la Asamblea<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tPorque<\/span> durante<\/span> muchos<\/span> a\u00f1os<\/span> lo que<\/span> se intentaba<\/span> era cambiar<\/span> Espa\u00f1a<\/span>, y Espa\u00f1a<\/span> no quiere<\/span> ser<\/span> cambiada<\/span>. Pens\u00e1bamos<\/span> que<\/span> cuando<\/span> llegara<\/span> la democracia<\/span> la cosa<\/span> cambiar\u00eda<\/span> y que<\/span> Catalunya<\/span> podr\u00eda<\/span> ser<\/span> reconocida<\/span> como<\/span> naci\u00f3n<\/span>, que<\/span> ser\u00eda<\/span> un pa\u00eds<\/span> absolutamente<\/span> democr\u00e1tico<\/span> con sus<\/span> derechos<\/span>, pero<\/span> vimos<\/span> que<\/span> esto<\/span> no pas\u00f3<\/span>. Intentamos<\/span> cambiar<\/span> Espa\u00f1a<\/span> y hemos<\/span> visto<\/span> amargamente<\/span> que<\/span> Espa\u00f1a<\/span> no quiere<\/span> ser<\/span> cambiada<\/span> porque<\/span> ya<\/span> le gusta<\/span> tal<\/span> y como<\/span> es<\/span>. Ha llegado<\/span> un momento<\/span> que<\/span> hemos<\/span> visto<\/span> que<\/span> no podemos<\/span> cambiar<\/span> Espa\u00f1a<\/span> pero<\/span> s\u00ed<\/span> cambiar<\/span> Catalunya<\/span> y la gota<\/span> que<\/span> colm\u00f3<\/span> el vaso<\/span> fue<\/span> la sentencia<\/span> del TC<\/span> el 2010.<\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfLo m\u00e1s<\/span> importante<\/span> del 9-N fue<\/span> que<\/span> los catalanes<\/span> perdimos<\/span> el miedo<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tYo<\/span> creo<\/span> que<\/span> lo m\u00e1s<\/span> importante<\/span> es<\/span> que<\/span> desafiamos<\/span> el Estado<\/span>, dijimos<\/span> que<\/span> el Estado<\/span> espa\u00f1ol<\/span> no es<\/span> nuestro<\/span> Estado<\/span>, ni<\/span> la justicia<\/span> espa\u00f1ola<\/span> es<\/span> nuestra<\/span> justicia<\/span>, ni<\/span> el TC<\/span> nuestro<\/span> tribunal. Nos dijeron<\/span> que<\/span> era ilegal<\/span> e inconstitucional<\/span> y fuimos<\/span> a votar<\/span> igualmente<\/span>. Eso<\/span> es<\/span> lo m\u00e1s<\/span> importante<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\tTeniendo<\/span> en cuenta<\/span> el alivio<\/span> con el que<\/span> Europa<\/span> se tom\u00f3<\/span> el “no” en Escocia<\/span>, \u00bfpiensa<\/span> que<\/span> aceptar\u00e1n<\/span> un nuevo<\/span> Estado<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tSeguro<\/span>, lo aceptar\u00e1<\/span>, no nos ayudar\u00e1<\/span> porque<\/span> a Europa<\/span>, como<\/span> en todos<\/span> los sitios<\/span>, lo que<\/span> le gusta<\/span> es<\/span> estar<\/span> tranquila<\/span>, que<\/span> no pase<\/span> nada, que<\/span> no se muevan<\/span> las<\/span> cosas<\/span>, que<\/span> cuantos<\/span> menos<\/span> problemas<\/span> haya<\/span> mejor<\/span>, pero<\/span> cuando<\/span> llegue<\/span> el momento<\/span> no le quedar\u00e1<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> remedio<\/span>. Como ha hecho<\/span> siempre<\/span>, intentar\u00e1<\/span> ser<\/span> pr\u00e1ctica<\/span> y si<\/span> el m\u00ednimo<\/span> problema<\/span> es<\/span> aceptar<\/span> la realidad<\/span> y nosotros<\/span> por<\/span> ejemplo<\/span> nos comprometemos<\/span> a pagar<\/span> la deuda<\/span> que<\/span> nos toca<\/span> y a ayudar<\/span> en todo<\/span> lo que<\/span> podamos<\/span> al Estado<\/span> espa\u00f1ol<\/span>, que<\/span> es<\/span> lo que<\/span> hay que<\/span> hacer<\/span>, Europa<\/span> lo aceptar\u00e1<\/span> porque<\/span> es<\/span> lo m\u00e1s<\/span> f\u00e1cil<\/span> para<\/span> todos<\/span>. La soluci\u00f3n<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> sencilla<\/span> y pragm\u00e1tica<\/span> es<\/span> aceptar<\/span> la realidad<\/span>, sobre<\/span> todo<\/span> c\u00f3mo<\/span> lo hacemos<\/span>, de manera<\/span> democr\u00e1tica<\/span> y pac\u00edfica<\/span> y por<\/span> las<\/span> urnas<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfDesea<\/span> dejar<\/span> de ser<\/span> independentista<\/span> para<\/span> poder<\/span> ser<\/span> ciudadanos<\/span> de un Estado<\/span> propio<\/span>, como<\/span> en cualquier<\/span> otro<\/span> pa\u00eds<\/span> normal?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tCreo<\/span> que<\/span> todos<\/span> los independentistas<\/span> quieren<\/span> dejar<\/span> de serlo<\/span>, es<\/span> uno<\/span> de los objetivos<\/span> de querer<\/span> ya<\/span> la independencia<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\tAlgunos<\/span> medios<\/span> espa\u00f1oles<\/span> les han<\/span> acusado<\/span> de malversaci\u00f3n<\/span>. \u00bfNo se ham planteado<\/span> emprender<\/span> acciones<\/span> legales<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tNo, no, nosotros<\/span> tenemos<\/span> mucho<\/span> trabajo<\/span> y no podemos<\/span> perder<\/span> ni<\/span> tiempo<\/span> ni<\/span> recursos<\/span> ni<\/span> energ\u00edas<\/span> respondiendo<\/span> provocaciones<\/span>. La prueba<\/span> es<\/span> que<\/span> todas<\/span> las<\/span> denuncias<\/span> que<\/span> se han<\/span> interpuesto<\/span> se han<\/span> retirado<\/span> porque<\/span> no tienen<\/span> base. No queremos<\/span> perder<\/span> tiempo<\/span> en esto<\/span>, no podemos<\/span> perder<\/span> tiempo<\/span> ni<\/span> contestando<\/span>, son provocaciones<\/span> para<\/span> intentar<\/span> que<\/span> nos desviemos<\/span> de nuestros<\/span> objetivos<\/span>. Nosotros<\/span> pagamos<\/span> nuestros<\/span> impuestos<\/span>, pagamos<\/span> el IVA…no tenemos<\/span> ning\u00fan<\/span> problema<\/span>, nos financiamos<\/span> con las<\/span> aportaciones<\/span> de nuestros<\/span> socios<\/span> y eso<\/span> lo saben<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\"alt\"<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00bfQu\u00e9<\/span> opina<\/span> de esta<\/span> querella<\/span> pol\u00edtica<\/span>? \u00bfEs<\/span> una<\/span> muestra<\/span> de la inexistencia<\/span> de separaci\u00f3n<\/span> de poderes<\/span> en Espa\u00f1a<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\tEvidentemente<\/span>, es<\/span> otro<\/span> motivo<\/span> para<\/span> querer<\/span> la independencia<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfEn qu\u00e9<\/span> se ha avanzado<\/span> respecto<\/span> al 11 de septiembre<\/span> del 2012, tanto<\/span> a nivel<\/span> de sociedad<\/span> como<\/span> de partidos<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tHemos<\/span> pasado<\/span> de un gobierno<\/span> autonomista<\/span> a un gobierno<\/span> soberanista<\/span>, esto<\/span> es<\/span> muy<\/span> importante<\/span>, se ha ampliado<\/span> la mayor\u00eda<\/span> social y la gente<\/span> ya<\/span> ve<\/span> que<\/span> esto<\/span> no tiene<\/span> marcha<\/span> atr\u00e1s<\/span>, se habla<\/span> de ello<\/span> en todos<\/span> los sitios<\/span>, la gente<\/span> ve<\/span> que<\/span> hace<\/span> falta<\/span> n mandato<\/span> democr\u00e1tico<\/span> claro<\/span><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tUno de los \u00e9xitos<\/span> del proceso<\/span> ha sido<\/span> su<\/span> car\u00e1cter<\/span> pac\u00edfico<\/span>. \u00bfQu\u00e9<\/span> aspectos<\/span> hay que<\/span> mejorar<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tEntendemos<\/span> que<\/span> la internacionalizaci\u00f3n<\/span> debe<\/span> mejorar<\/span>, aunque<\/span> eso<\/span> debe<\/span> hacerlo<\/span> el Govern y en una<\/span> \u00e9poca<\/span> de crisis con pocos<\/span> recursos<\/span> los gobiernos<\/span> priorizan<\/span> los temas<\/span> sociales<\/span>. Si est\u00e1s<\/span> de bonanza econ\u00f3mica<\/span> puedes<\/span> dedicar<\/span> muchos<\/span> recursos<\/span> a eso<\/span> pero<\/span> en estos<\/span> momentos<\/span> es<\/span> poco<\/span> popular dedicar<\/span> recursos<\/span> a internacionalizar<\/span> el proceso<\/span> cuando<\/span> hay tantas<\/span> necesidades<\/span> sociales<\/span>. Hay que<\/span> saber compaginar<\/span> ambas<\/span> cosas<\/span>, este<\/span> trabajo<\/span> no se ha hecho<\/span> por<\/span> este<\/span> motivo<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tPero<\/span> el problema<\/span> es<\/span> que<\/span> los corresponsales<\/span> extranjeros<\/span> est\u00e1n<\/span> en Madrid y tienen<\/span> la visi\u00f3n<\/span> que<\/span> tienen…<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tTodos<\/span> est\u00e1n<\/span> en Madrid y la visi\u00f3n<\/span> que<\/span> les dan<\/span> es<\/span> a trav\u00e9s<\/span> del gobierno<\/span> espa\u00f1ol<\/span> pero<\/span> por<\/span> suerte<\/span> en los \u00faltimos<\/span> 11-S hemos<\/span> conseguido<\/span> que<\/span> vinieran<\/span> aqu\u00ed<\/span> y vieran<\/span> lo que<\/span> suced\u00eda<\/span> y en el \u00faltimo<\/span> a\u00f1o<\/span> la visi\u00f3n<\/span> ha cambiado<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tEn Catalunya<\/span> la palanca<\/span> del cambio<\/span> la impulsan<\/span> tres<\/span> mujeres, usted<\/span>, Muriel Casals<\/span> y Ada Colau<\/span>. \u00bfEsto<\/span> significa<\/span> que<\/span> cambia el patr\u00f3n<\/span> tradicional<\/span>, que<\/span> en definitiva<\/span> algo<\/span> est\u00e1<\/span> cambiando<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tS\u00ed<\/span>, pero<\/span> en el caso<\/span> de la ANC la fuerza<\/span> que<\/span> tenemos<\/span> es<\/span> la de la gente<\/span>, por<\/span> estar<\/span> implantados<\/span> en el territorio<\/span> y es<\/span> indiferente<\/span> qui\u00e9n<\/span> est\u00e1<\/span> al delante<\/span>, yo<\/span> lo que<\/span> hago<\/span> es<\/span> representar<\/span> lo que<\/span> piensan<\/span> la mayor\u00eda<\/span> de nuestros<\/span> socios<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tPero<\/span> es<\/span> significativo<\/span> que<\/span> estos<\/span> cargos sean<\/span> ocupados<\/span> por<\/span> mujeres, hace<\/span> a\u00f1os<\/span> eso<\/span> hubiera<\/span> sido<\/span> impensable<\/span>.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tPiensa<\/span> que<\/span> son cargos absolutamente<\/span> voluntarios<\/span>, las<\/span> mujeres siempre<\/span> han<\/span> estado<\/span> delante<\/span> de este<\/span> tipo<\/span> de proyectos<\/span>, pero<\/span> si<\/span> miras<\/span> qui\u00e9n<\/span> est\u00e1<\/span> al frente<\/span> de los partidos<\/span> pol\u00edticos<\/span>, empresas<\/span> importantes<\/span> y bancos<\/span>, contin\u00faan<\/span> siendo<\/span> hombres. Las mujeres siempre<\/span> hemos<\/span> estado<\/span> al frente<\/span> de proyectos<\/span> solidarios<\/span> o basados<\/span> en voluntariado<\/span>, como<\/span> ahora<\/span> hay ese<\/span> descr\u00e9dito<\/span> de la pol\u00edtica<\/span> profesional<\/span>, estas<\/span> entidades<\/span> han<\/span> cogido<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> importancia<\/span>. Pero<\/span> todav\u00eda<\/span> hay que<\/span> trabajar<\/span> mucho<\/span> todo<\/span> el tema<\/span> de las<\/span> mujeres.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tPodemos<\/span> representa<\/span> una<\/span> amenaza<\/span> para<\/span> el bipartidismo<\/span> pero<\/span> son ambiguos<\/span> en el tema<\/span> catal\u00e1n<\/span>, defienden<\/span> de manera<\/span> gen\u00e9rica<\/span> el derecho<\/span> a la autodeterminaci\u00f3n<\/span> pero<\/span> con la boca<\/span> peque\u00f1a<\/span>, no sea que<\/span> pierdan<\/span> votos<\/span> en Espa\u00f1a…<\/span> <\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tPara los partidos<\/span> soberanistas<\/span> no es<\/span> una<\/span> amenaza<\/span>, s\u00ed<\/span> lo es<\/span> para<\/span> PP, PSOE<\/span> y C’s.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfSi ganaran<\/span> las<\/span> pr\u00f3ximas<\/span> elecciones<\/span> generales<\/span> ser\u00eda<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> f\u00e1cil<\/span> negociar<\/span> la independencia<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tNosotros<\/span> continuaremos<\/span> nuestro<\/span> camino<\/span> al margen<\/span> de las<\/span> elecciones<\/span> espa\u00f1oles<\/span>, ya<\/span> tenemos<\/span> nuestra<\/span> hoja<\/span> de ruta<\/span>, que<\/span> es<\/span> la de ampliar<\/span> la mayor\u00eda<\/span> social para<\/span> la independencia<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfHasta<\/span> qu\u00e9<\/span> punto<\/span> es<\/span> importancia<\/span> el trabajo<\/span> de la entidad<\/span> S\u00famate<\/span>, que<\/span> rompe<\/span> el falso<\/span> mito<\/span> de que<\/span> la independencia<\/span> se basa<\/span> en la identidad<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tMuy<\/span> importante<\/span>, demuestra<\/span> que<\/span> la independencia<\/span> es<\/span> un tema<\/span> de justicia<\/span> social, y no un asunto<\/span> basado<\/span> en lengua<\/span> e identidad<\/span>, son personas que<\/span> hablan<\/span> castellano<\/span> y se sienten<\/span> espa\u00f1olas<\/span> pero<\/span> est\u00e1n<\/span> por<\/span> la independencia<\/span> porque<\/span> la ven<\/span> como<\/span> una<\/span> herramienta<\/span> para<\/span> conseguir<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> justicia<\/span> social.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfComparten<\/span> sinergias<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tS\u00ed<\/span>, muchas<\/span>, y tambi\u00e9n<\/span> compartimos<\/span> muchos<\/span> actos<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tSi ya<\/span> hay mayor\u00eda<\/span> parlamentaria<\/span> a favor del derecho<\/span> a decidir<\/span> y cada<\/span> 11-S salen<\/span> a la calle<\/span> un mill\u00f3n<\/span> largo de personas, \u00bfqu\u00e9<\/span> falta<\/span> para<\/span> conectar<\/span> esa<\/span> demanda<\/span> social con los pol\u00edticos<\/span>? Parece<\/span> que<\/span> a la hora<\/span> de vehicular esa<\/span> reivindicaci\u00f3n<\/span> se pierde<\/span> algo<\/span> en los pasillos<\/span> del Parlament…<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tEn las<\/span> \u00faltimas<\/span> elecciones<\/span> los que<\/span> ganaron<\/span> llevaban<\/span> en su<\/span> programa<\/span> que<\/span> har\u00edan<\/span> una<\/span> consulta<\/span>, no que<\/span> declarar\u00edan<\/span> la independencia<\/span>, una<\/span> consulta<\/span> que<\/span> al final no fue<\/span> la que<\/span> quer\u00edamos<\/span> pero<\/span> que<\/span> tambi\u00e9n<\/span> fue<\/span> un \u00e9xito<\/span>. Y ahora<\/span> se trata<\/span> que<\/span> lleven<\/span> eso<\/span> de manera<\/span> muy<\/span> clara<\/span> porque<\/span> la gente<\/span> sepa<\/span> claramente<\/span> lo qu\u00e9<\/span> votamos<\/span> y a qui\u00e9n<\/span> votamos<\/span>, es<\/span> importante<\/span> saber que<\/span> el objetivo<\/span> de estas<\/span> elecciones<\/span> ser\u00e1<\/span> \u00fanica<\/span> y exclusivamente<\/span> la independencia<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfVer\u00eda<\/span> con buenos<\/span> ojos<\/span> una<\/span> DUI?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tNosotros<\/span> no la llamamos<\/span> as\u00ed<\/span>, la llamamos<\/span> Declaraci\u00f3n<\/span> de Independencia<\/span> porque<\/span> todas<\/span> las<\/span> declaraciones<\/span> de independencia<\/span> son unilaterales<\/span>, es<\/span> muy<\/span> dif\u00edcil<\/span> que<\/span> el pa\u00eds<\/span> del que<\/span> te<\/span> quieres<\/span> independizar<\/span> est\u00e9<\/span> de acuerdo<\/span>, esto<\/span> se ha dado en muy<\/span> pocos<\/span> casos<\/span> en la historia<\/span>, por<\/span> ejemplo<\/span> Rep\u00fablica<\/span> Checa<\/span> y Eslovaquia<\/span>, que<\/span> lo hicieron<\/span> de mutuo<\/span> acuerdo<\/span>, pero<\/span> los dem\u00e1s<\/span> han<\/span> hecho<\/span> una<\/span> declaraci\u00f3n<\/span> de independencia<\/span>. La ver\u00edamos<\/span> bien<\/span>, para<\/span> eso<\/span> estamos<\/span> trabajando<\/span> y estas<\/span> elecciones<\/span> van en este<\/span> camino<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tLas encuestas<\/span> se\u00f1alan<\/span> que<\/span> los partidarios<\/span> de la independencia<\/span> est\u00e1n<\/span> sobre<\/span> el 40%. \u00bfHab\u00e9is<\/span> hecho<\/span> un recuento<\/span>, ten\u00e9is<\/span> algunos<\/span> datos<\/span> al respecto<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tNo, no los sabemos<\/span>, lo que<\/span> sabemos<\/span> seguro<\/span> es<\/span> que<\/span> 1.900.000 votaron<\/span> “s\u00ed”<\/span> en las<\/span> \u00faltimas<\/span> elecciones<\/span> y de aqu\u00ed<\/span> para<\/span> arriba<\/span>. Nosotros<\/span> sabemos<\/span> que<\/span> la mayor\u00eda<\/span> social para<\/span> la independencia<\/span> ha sido<\/span> subiendo<\/span>, cada<\/span> vez<\/span> hay m\u00e1s<\/span>, y en las<\/span> \u00faltimas<\/span> elecciones<\/span>, las<\/span> mayor\u00edas<\/span> parlamentarias<\/span> eran<\/span> claramente<\/span> independentistas<\/span> y nosotros<\/span> trabajamos<\/span> para<\/span> ampliar<\/span> esa<\/span> mayor\u00eda<\/span> social. Y esos<\/span> 230.000 que<\/span> votaron<\/span> “s\u00ed-no”<\/span>, como<\/span> no hay alternativa<\/span>, acabar\u00e1n<\/span> siendo<\/span> independentistas<\/span><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfCu\u00e1l<\/span> considera<\/span> que<\/span> ser\u00eda<\/span> una<\/span> mayor\u00eda<\/span> cualificada<\/span>? \u00bfSobre<\/span> un 60%?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tLa mitad<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> 1, con 50\u00a0 m\u00e1s<\/span> uno<\/span>, en democracia<\/span> es<\/span> as\u00ed<\/span> en todos<\/span> los sitios<\/span>, porque<\/span> si<\/span> no los votos<\/span> del “no” valdr\u00edan<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> que<\/span> los del “s\u00ed”<\/span>, y si<\/span> una<\/span> persona es<\/span> un voto<\/span> y todos<\/span> los votos<\/span> valen<\/span> igual<\/span>, es<\/span> la mitad<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> 1, porque<\/span> sino<\/span> est\u00e1s<\/span> diciendo<\/span> que<\/span> los votos<\/span> del “no” valen<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> que<\/span> los del “s\u00ed”<\/span> y esto<\/span> es<\/span> antidemocr\u00e1tico<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tPero<\/span> el unionismo<\/span> lo manipula<\/span> convirtiendo<\/span> autom\u00e1ticamente<\/span> a los que<\/span> no fueron<\/span> a votar<\/span> el 9-N en partidarios<\/span> del “no”…<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tNosotros<\/span> no entramos<\/span> en este<\/span> juego<\/span> porque<\/span> es<\/span> muy<\/span> simplista<\/span> y ya<\/span> somos<\/span> un poco<\/span> mayorcitos<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfQu\u00e9<\/span> estatus<\/span> deber\u00eda<\/span> tener<\/span> la lengua<\/span> castellana<\/span> en la Catalunya<\/span> independiente<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tMuy<\/span> importante<\/span>, eso<\/span> hay que<\/span> decidirlo<\/span>, a m\u00ed<\/span> no me gusta<\/span> hablar<\/span> de lengua<\/span> oficial<\/span> porque<\/span> es<\/span> propio<\/span> de Estados<\/span> totalitarios<\/span> como<\/span> Francia<\/span> o Espa\u00f1a<\/span>, usar<\/span> el aparato<\/span> del Estado<\/span> para<\/span> imponer<\/span> una<\/span> lengua…<\/span> me gusta<\/span> el concepto<\/span> anglosaj\u00f3n<\/span>, hablar<\/span> de lengua<\/span> comuna<\/span> o lengua<\/span> nacional<\/span>. No me gusta<\/span> lo de lengua<\/span> oficial<\/span>, ni<\/span> para<\/span> el catal\u00e1n<\/span>, ni<\/span> para<\/span> el castellano<\/span> ni<\/span> para<\/span> ninguna<\/span> lengua<\/span>. Hay que<\/span> discutir<\/span> esta<\/span> cuesti\u00f3n<\/span>, el castellano<\/span> es<\/span> una<\/span> lengua<\/span> importante<\/span>, tambi\u00e9n<\/span> es<\/span> una<\/span> lengua<\/span> de Catalunya<\/span> y la de muchos<\/span> catalanes<\/span> y debe<\/span> tener<\/span> un estatus<\/span> especial, ya<\/span> se decidir\u00e1<\/span> cu\u00e1l<\/span>. El catal\u00e1n<\/span> debe<\/span> ser<\/span> la lengua<\/span> comuna<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfLas elecciones<\/span> municipales<\/span> del mes<\/span> de mayo pueden<\/span> condicionar<\/span> el proceso<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tPrimero<\/span> se deben<\/span> celebrar<\/span> las<\/span> nacionales<\/span>, las<\/span> municipales<\/span> para<\/span> nosotros<\/span> no han<\/span> de ser<\/span> antes que<\/span> las<\/span> nacionales<\/span>, ser\u00eda<\/span> un error, tienen<\/span> que<\/span> ser<\/span> ya<\/span> porque<\/span> necesitamos<\/span> un mandato<\/span> democr\u00e1tico<\/span> claro<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfY entre<\/span> las<\/span> nacionales<\/span>, las<\/span> municipales<\/span> y las<\/span> generales<\/span> no se van a fatigar<\/span> los electores<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfCansancio<\/span> para<\/span> ir<\/span> a votar<\/span>? Si tuvieran<\/span> que<\/span> hacer<\/span> campa\u00f1a…<\/span> no creo<\/span> que<\/span> sea demasiado<\/span> cansado<\/span>. Adem\u00e1s<\/span>, la mayor\u00eda<\/span> de gente<\/span> tiene<\/span> muchas<\/span> ganas<\/span> de ir<\/span> a votar<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfHan intentando<\/span> buscar<\/span> complicidades<\/span> con partidos<\/span> o intelectuales<\/span> espa\u00f1oles<\/span> o apenas<\/span> existen<\/span>? Pla<\/span> dijo<\/span> que<\/span> no hay nada que<\/span> se parezca<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> a un espa\u00f1ol<\/span> de derechas<\/span> que<\/span> un espa\u00f1ol<\/span> de izquierdas…<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tNo las<\/span> hemos<\/span> encontrado<\/span>, aunque<\/span> nosotros<\/span> tenemos<\/span> muy<\/span> claro<\/span> que<\/span> el trabajo<\/span> tenemos<\/span> que<\/span> hacerlo<\/span> aqu\u00ed<\/span>. Cada<\/span> vez<\/span> que<\/span> alguien<\/span> lo ha intentado<\/span> no ha encontrado<\/span> demasiada<\/span> respuesta<\/span>, tampoco<\/span> nos hemos<\/span> esforzado<\/span>, no era nuestro<\/span> objetivo<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfC\u00f3mo<\/span> reacciona<\/span> la gente<\/span> ante los voluntarios<\/span> que<\/span> hacen<\/span> el ‘puerta<\/span> a puerta’<\/span>? \u00bfHa habido<\/span> buena<\/span> predisposici\u00f3n<\/span> o respuestas<\/span> hostiles?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tSe han<\/span> encontrado<\/span> de todo<\/span>, incluso<\/span> gente<\/span> que<\/span> ni<\/span> sab\u00eda<\/span> que<\/span> se votaba<\/span> el 9-N, otros<\/span> que<\/span> les han<\/span> dicho<\/span> que<\/span> son unionistas…pero<\/span> gente<\/span> muy<\/span> hostil<\/span> no.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfYa<\/span> est\u00e1n<\/span> preparando<\/span> algo<\/span> para<\/span> el pr\u00f3ximo<\/span> 11 de septiembre<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tEsperemos<\/span> que<\/span> podamos<\/span> celebrar<\/span> algo<\/span> y, por<\/span> tanto<\/span>, no tengamos<\/span> que<\/span> conmemorar<\/span> sino<\/span> celebrar<\/span> algo<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfHay un plan B por<\/span> si<\/span> sale el “no” a la independencia<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tNo nos lo hemos<\/span> planteado<\/span> porque<\/span> estamos<\/span> seguros<\/span> que<\/span> saldr\u00e1<\/span> el “s\u00ed”<\/span>, sobre<\/span> todo<\/span> porque<\/span> no hay argumentos<\/span> para<\/span> el “no”.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\"alt\"<\/p>\n

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