{"id":5418,"date":"2014-06-01T08:13:01","date_gmt":"2014-06-01T08:13:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.revistarambla.com\/la-derecha-solo-tiene-el-bolsillo-como-ideologia\/"},"modified":"2019-09-30T17:23:29","modified_gmt":"2019-09-30T15:23:29","slug":"la-derecha-solo-tiene-el-bolsillo-como-ideologia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.revistarambla.com\/en\/la-derecha-solo-tiene-el-bolsillo-como-ideologia\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cLA DERECHA S\u00d3LO TIENE EL BOLSILLO COMO IDEOLOG\u00cdA\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"

\t\"alt\"Arcadi<\/span> Oliveres<\/span> (Barcelona, 1945) es<\/span> profesor<\/span> de Econom\u00eda<\/span> de la Universidad Aut\u00f3noma<\/span> de Barcelona y acaba<\/span> de dejar<\/span> la presidencia<\/span> de la ONG<\/span> Just\u00edcia<\/span> i Pau<\/span>, que<\/span> defiende<\/span> y promueve<\/span> los derechos<\/span> humanos<\/span> y la paz<\/span>. Impulsor<\/span> de Proc\u00e9s<\/span> Constituent,<\/p>\n

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\tArcadi<\/span> Oliveres<\/span> (Barcelona, 1945) es<\/span> profesor<\/span> de Econom\u00eda<\/span> de la Universidad Aut\u00f3noma<\/span> de Barcelona y acaba<\/span> de dejar<\/span> la presidencia<\/span> de la ONG<\/span> Just\u00edcia<\/span> i Pau<\/span>, que<\/span> defiende<\/span> y promueve<\/span> los derechos<\/span> humanos<\/span> y la paz<\/span>. Impulsor<\/span> de Proc\u00e9s<\/span> Constituent, critica<\/span> las<\/span> pol\u00edticas<\/span> y los recortes<\/span> del gobierno<\/span> del PP y de la Troika y considera<\/span> que<\/span> el proceso<\/span> de independencia<\/span> de Catalu\u00f1a<\/span> no puede<\/span> gravitar<\/span> \u00fanicamente<\/span> alrededor<\/span> de la cuesti\u00f3n<\/span> nacional<\/span>. Oliveres<\/span> defiende<\/span> la vigencia<\/span> de un 15M<\/span> “sectorializado<\/span> y con din\u00e1micas<\/span> activas”<\/span> y advierte<\/span> contra la desmovilizaci\u00f3n<\/span> social y el endurecimiento<\/span> de la legislaci\u00f3n<\/span> para<\/span> “criminalizar<\/span> las<\/span> protestas”<\/span>.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tProc\u00e9s<\/span> Constituent inici\u00f3<\/span> el mes<\/span> de mayo con una<\/span> llamada<\/span> <\/strong>a<\/strong>una<\/strong><\/span> candidatura<\/span> unitaria<\/span> de la izquierda<\/span> para<\/span> las<\/span> pr\u00f3ximas<\/span> elecciones<\/span> al Parlament<\/span> de Catalunya<\/span>. Hubo<\/span> respuestas<\/span> dispares<\/span> por<\/span> parte<\/span> de ICV<\/span>, dispuestos<\/span> a la colaboraci\u00f3n<\/span>, y de la CUP, molesta<\/span> por<\/span> lanzarle<\/span> propuestas<\/span> a trav\u00e9s<\/span> de los medios<\/span> de comunicaci\u00f3n<\/span>.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tEs<\/span> una<\/span> cuesti\u00f3n<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> de forma que<\/span> de fondo<\/span>. Nuestras<\/span> relaciones<\/span> con ICV-EUiA<\/span> y con la CUP son muy<\/span> cordiales<\/span>. El \u00fanico<\/span> problema<\/span> que<\/span> tenemos<\/span> es<\/span> que<\/span> esas<\/span> relaciones<\/span> son bilaterales<\/span> y no, como<\/span> querr\u00edamos<\/span>, multilaterales<\/span>. Nosotros<\/span>, como<\/span> hemos<\/span> repetido<\/span> muchas<\/span> veces<\/span>, queremos<\/span> que<\/span> ese<\/span> futuro<\/span> acuerdo<\/span> de colaboraci\u00f3n<\/span> integre<\/span> a estas<\/span> fuerzas<\/span> de izquierdas<\/span> y a m\u00e1s<\/span> gente<\/span>, descontentos<\/span> de PSC<\/span> y ERC<\/span>, provenientes<\/span> de movimientos<\/span> sociales<\/span>, etc, ese<\/span> es<\/span> nuestro<\/span> objetivo<\/span>. El problema<\/span> es<\/span> que<\/span>, sobre<\/span> todo<\/span> con los partidos<\/span>, todos<\/span> nos abrazan<\/span> e invitan<\/span> a ir<\/span> con ellos<\/span>, pero<\/span> en el momento<\/span> de hablar<\/span> de ir<\/span> todos<\/span> juntos<\/span>, nos dicen<\/span> que<\/span> no. Son los resquemores<\/span> t\u00edpicos<\/span> de la izquierda<\/span>, que<\/span> al fin y al cabo<\/span> son los que<\/span> motivaron<\/span> nuestra<\/span> aparici\u00f3n<\/span>. Si tenemos<\/span> un 80% de programa<\/span> pol\u00edtico<\/span> com\u00fan<\/span>, debemos<\/span> consensuar<\/span> ese<\/span> 20% restante<\/span>, de peque\u00f1as<\/span> diferencias<\/span>, muchas<\/span> veces<\/span> motivadas<\/span> por<\/span> problemas<\/span> personales<\/span>. Es<\/span> un problema<\/span> que<\/span> persiste<\/span> y no hemos<\/span> avanzado<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span>. La izquierda<\/span> es<\/span> as\u00ed<\/span> de insensata<\/span>.\u00a0<\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfEl objetivo<\/span> inicial<\/span> de concurrir<\/span> a las<\/span> auton\u00f3micas<\/span> con una<\/span> candidatura<\/span> conjunta<\/span> est\u00e1<\/span> en el aire<\/span>? <\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tLas negociaciones<\/span> est\u00e1n<\/span> en su<\/span> inicio<\/span>. Es<\/span> un proceso<\/span> a\u00fan<\/span> muy<\/span> embrionario<\/span> y con la inc\u00f3gnita<\/span> de si<\/span> las<\/span> elecciones<\/span> se producir\u00e1n<\/span> a finales de este<\/span> a\u00f1o<\/span>, el pr\u00f3ximo<\/span> o cuando<\/span> toquen<\/span>. Si es<\/span> en 2016 -fecha<\/span> prevista<\/span>– a\u00fan<\/span> hay tiempo<\/span>, pero<\/span> si<\/span> no tendr\u00e1<\/span> que<\/span> hacerse<\/span>, como<\/span> el resto<\/span> de opciones<\/span>, deprisa<\/span> y corriendo<\/span>. Pero<\/span> como<\/span> ya<\/span> hemos<\/span> dicho<\/span> que<\/span> no tenemos<\/span> un inter\u00e9s<\/span> personal en esto<\/span>, si<\/span> sale bien<\/span>, perfecto, si<\/span> no, continuaremos<\/span> con nuestro<\/span> trabajo<\/span>. Es<\/span> una<\/span> reflexi\u00f3n<\/span> que<\/span> tambi\u00e9n<\/span> sirve<\/span> para<\/span> crear<\/span> conciencia<\/span> pol\u00edtica<\/span>. Personalmente<\/span>, estoy<\/span> satisfecho<\/span> de c\u00f3mo<\/span> est\u00e1<\/span> funcionando<\/span> PC, como<\/span> ejemplo<\/span>, sin presentarnos<\/span> para<\/span> las<\/span> elecciones<\/span> europeas<\/span> realizamos<\/span> unas<\/span> jornadas<\/span> sobre<\/span> los temas<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> importantes<\/span> que<\/span> afectan<\/span> a la Uni\u00f3n<\/span> Europea<\/span> a las<\/span> que<\/span> asistieron<\/span> 1.200 personas.<\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfY qu\u00e9<\/span> conclusiones<\/span> sacaron<\/span> sobre<\/span> la UE<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tMuy<\/span> cr\u00edticas<\/span> con el euro, con las<\/span> instituciones<\/span> europeas<\/span>, con la respuesta<\/span> que<\/span> se est\u00e1<\/span> dando<\/span> a la inmigraci\u00f3n<\/span>…<\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfA la clase<\/span> obrera<\/span> le ha ido<\/span> bien<\/span> con el proceso<\/span> de integraci\u00f3n<\/span> europea<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tNada bien<\/span>. Esta<\/span> pol\u00edtica<\/span> de austeridad<\/span> impuesta<\/span> desde<\/span> arriba<\/span> s\u00f3lo<\/span> sirve<\/span> para<\/span> castigar<\/span> a los trabajadores<\/span> europeos<\/span>. Perd\u00f3n<\/span> por<\/span> autocitarme<\/span>, pero<\/span> tengo<\/span> art\u00edculos<\/span> de hace<\/span> 12 a\u00f1os<\/span> diciendo<\/span> ya<\/span> que<\/span> el euro era una<\/span> barbaridad<\/span> y a d\u00f3nde<\/span> nos iba<\/span> a conducir<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\tEntre<\/span> las<\/span> izquierdas<\/span> se ha ido<\/span> extendiendo<\/span> la necesidad<\/span> de articular un frente<\/span> com\u00fan<\/span>, una<\/span> alternativa<\/span> potente<\/span> a las<\/span> pol\u00edticas<\/span> neoliberales<\/span>, \u00bfhay una<\/span> posibilidad<\/span> real de constituir<\/span> esta<\/span> candidatura<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tTenemos<\/span> una<\/span> argumentaci\u00f3n<\/span> potente<\/span> y clara<\/span>, lo que<\/span> falta<\/span> es<\/span> la voluntad<\/span> de avanzar<\/span> juntos<\/span> en el camino<\/span>. Pienso<\/span> que<\/span> los argumentos<\/span> que<\/span> hay hoy<\/span> en d\u00eda<\/span> contra las<\/span> pol\u00edticas<\/span> de recortes<\/span> son irrefutables<\/span>, y adem\u00e1s<\/span> son compartidos<\/span> por<\/span> un 80% de la poblaci\u00f3n<\/span> catalana<\/span>, que<\/span> querr\u00eda<\/span> cambiar<\/span> este<\/span> estado<\/span> de cosas<\/span>. Pero<\/span> luego<\/span> llegan<\/span>, repito<\/span>, los problemas<\/span> por<\/span> cuestiones<\/span> personales<\/span> o rencillas<\/span> locales.<\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfEs<\/span> un problema<\/span> de personalismos<\/span>, de tacticismos<\/span>? <\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tQuiz\u00e1s<\/span> no sea tanto<\/span> de personalismos<\/span> y m\u00e1s<\/span> de t\u00e1cticas<\/span>, de costumbres<\/span>. En las<\/span> recientes<\/span> europeas<\/span> con 64 candidaturas<\/span> lo hemos<\/span> comprobado<\/span>, aparte<\/span> de los que<\/span> s\u00f3lo<\/span> buscan<\/span> visibilidad<\/span>, la gran<\/span> cantidad<\/span> de formaciones<\/span> de izquierda<\/span> existentes<\/span> permite<\/span> ver<\/span> las<\/span> discrepancias<\/span>, muchas<\/span> veces<\/span> min\u00fasculas<\/span>, entre<\/span> ellas<\/span>. Es<\/span> una<\/span> l\u00e1stima<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfEntonces<\/span> tienen<\/span> raz\u00f3n<\/span> PP y PSOE<\/span> cuando<\/span> critican<\/span> la dispersi\u00f3n<\/span> de voto<\/span> que<\/span> provocan<\/span> los partidos<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span>\u00a0 peque\u00f1os<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tLos resultados<\/span> no les han<\/span> acompa\u00f1ado<\/span> esta<\/span> vez<\/span>, pero<\/span> tal<\/span> y como<\/span> est\u00e1<\/span> la ley<\/span> electoral est\u00e1n<\/span> bastante<\/span> en lo cierto<\/span>. De aqu\u00ed<\/span>, nuestra<\/span> voluntad<\/span> de concurrir<\/span> juntos<\/span>. Por<\/span> eso<\/span> mismo<\/span> no queremos<\/span> presentarnos<\/span> a las<\/span> elecciones<\/span>, para<\/span> evitar<\/span> a\u00fan<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> la dispersi\u00f3n<\/span> y fragmentaci\u00f3n<\/span> del voto<\/span> de la izquierda<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfLa derecha<\/span> parece<\/span> que<\/span> lo tiene<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> claro<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tLa derecha<\/span> s\u00f3lo<\/span> tiene<\/span> el bolsillo<\/span> como<\/span> ideolog\u00eda<\/span>. Les da<\/span> igual<\/span> el contenido<\/span> de los programas<\/span> pol\u00edticos<\/span> de unos<\/span> y de otros<\/span>, s\u00f3lo<\/span> les importa<\/span> la cartera<\/span>, que<\/span> no se la toquen<\/span>. Tienen<\/span> menos<\/span> pruritos<\/span> ideol\u00f3gicos<\/span> que<\/span> la izquierda<\/span>, muchas<\/span> veces<\/span> marcada<\/span> por<\/span> cierto<\/span> puritanismo<\/span>. Esto<\/span> es<\/span>, en definitiva<\/span>, lo que<\/span> motivo<\/span> nuestra<\/span> aparici\u00f3n<\/span>. Si la izquierda<\/span> catalana<\/span> hubiese<\/span> ido<\/span> unida<\/span> a las<\/span> elecciones<\/span>, otro<\/span> gallo<\/span> nos cantar\u00eda<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\tEl 15M<\/span> ha creado<\/span> unas<\/span> din\u00e1micas<\/span> de movilizaci\u00f3n<\/span> que<\/span> van obteniendo<\/span> resultados<\/span>… <\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tS\u00ed<\/span>, pero<\/span> cada<\/span> uno<\/span> separado<\/span> en su<\/span> grupo<\/span> y nosotros<\/span> tampoco<\/span> tenemos<\/span> una<\/span> autoridad<\/span> moral que<\/span> cada<\/span> uno<\/span> de ellos<\/span> para<\/span> reclamar<\/span> esa<\/span> unidad<\/span> de acci\u00f3n<\/span>, porque<\/span> no dejamos<\/span> de ser<\/span> uno<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\t\"alt\"\u00bfEs<\/span> necesario<\/span> ese<\/span> proceso<\/span> constituyente<\/span> no s\u00f3lo<\/span> en Catalunya<\/span>, sino<\/span> en toda<\/span> Espa\u00f1a<\/span> como<\/span> reclaman<\/span>, entre<\/span> otros<\/span> IU o Podemos<\/span>? \u00bfUna<\/span> ruptura<\/span> democr\u00e1tica<\/span> desde<\/span> abajo<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tSer\u00eda<\/span> conveniente<\/span>, aunque<\/span> hay una<\/span> diferencia<\/span> b\u00e1sica<\/span>, ya<\/span> que<\/span> nosotros<\/span> optamos<\/span> por<\/span> la independencia<\/span> y ellos<\/span> no. Eso<\/span> s\u00ed<\/span>, participamos<\/span> en los encuentros<\/span> de grupos<\/span> que<\/span> propugnan<\/span> procesos<\/span> constituyentes<\/span> en el Estado<\/span> y, de hecho<\/span>, la pr\u00f3xima<\/span> reuni\u00f3n<\/span> se celebrar\u00e1<\/span> en Barcelona.<\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfEl r\u00e9gimen<\/span> de 1978 est\u00e1<\/span> en una<\/span> crisis tan profunda<\/span> como<\/span> parece<\/span> o con unas<\/span> reformas<\/span> tendr\u00eda<\/span> suficiente<\/span> para<\/span> seguir<\/span> adelante<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tNo s\u00f3lo<\/span> est\u00e1<\/span> en crisis el r\u00e9gimen<\/span> del 78, sino<\/span> el r\u00e9gimen<\/span> econ\u00f3mico<\/span> internacional<\/span>, pero<\/span> por<\/span> desgracia<\/span> lo que<\/span> sigue<\/span> vigente<\/span> es<\/span> mucho<\/span> miedo<\/span> por<\/span> parte<\/span> de la ciudadan\u00eda<\/span>. Mientras<\/span> la gente<\/span> no se atreva<\/span> a dar<\/span> un paso<\/span> adelante<\/span> hacia<\/span> un cambio<\/span> radical nada cambiar\u00e1<\/span>. La gente<\/span> siempre<\/span> tiene<\/span> ese<\/span> toque conservador<\/span> de \u00faltima<\/span> hora<\/span>, ese<\/span> “s\u00ed<\/span>, pero…”, eso<\/span> se vio<\/span>, por<\/span> ejemplo<\/span>, en el refer\u00e9ndum<\/span> de la OTAN<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfEl proceso<\/span> soberanista<\/span> puede<\/span> acabar<\/span> tambi\u00e9n<\/span> as\u00ed<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tEs<\/span> una<\/span> posibilidad<\/span>, sobre<\/span> todo<\/span> si<\/span> tenemos<\/span> en cuenta<\/span> el contexto<\/span> sociol\u00f3gico<\/span> de Converg\u00e8ncia<\/span> i Uni\u00f3<\/span>, aunque<\/span> ahora<\/span> es<\/span> un poco<\/span> el reh\u00e9n<\/span> de ERC<\/span>, y si<\/span> \u00e9stos<\/span> aprietan<\/span>, quiz\u00e1s<\/span> no se atrevan<\/span> a dar<\/span> marcha<\/span> atr\u00e1s<\/span>. Nuestra<\/span> propuesta<\/span> es<\/span> que<\/span> el refer\u00e9ndum<\/span> se hiciese<\/span> s\u00ed<\/span> o s\u00ed<\/span>, y que<\/span> se vote s\u00ed<\/span> y s\u00ed<\/span>. Y si<\/span> no es<\/span> el caso<\/span>, defenderemos<\/span> la realizaci\u00f3n<\/span> de la consulta<\/span> practicando<\/span> la desobediencia<\/span> civil y poniendo<\/span> las<\/span> urnas<\/span> en la calle<\/span>, y si<\/span> nos detienen<\/span>, correremos<\/span> ese<\/span> riesgo<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\tLas leyes<\/span> que<\/span> prepara<\/span> el gobierno<\/span> central o la respuesta<\/span> que<\/span> aplica<\/span> la Generalitat<\/span> a la movilizaci\u00f3n<\/span> social parecen<\/span> ir<\/span> en sentido<\/span> contrario<\/span>. \u00bfSe quiere<\/span> criminalizar<\/span> la desobediencia<\/span>, la disidencia<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tS\u00ed<\/span>, pero<\/span> tenemos<\/span> que<\/span> animar<\/span> a la gente<\/span> a desobedecer<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\tPara la pr\u00f3xima<\/span> Diada<\/span>, \u00bfir\u00e1n<\/span> junto<\/span> a la Assemblea<\/span> Nacional<\/span> Catalana<\/span>? \u00bfNo se rodear\u00e1<\/span> la Caixa<\/span> esta<\/span> vez<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tSon dos cosas<\/span>, la ANC ha tomado<\/span> conciencia<\/span> que<\/span> quiz\u00e1s<\/span> les faltaba<\/span> una<\/span> reivindicaci\u00f3n<\/span> social, que<\/span> hace<\/span> falta<\/span> darle<\/span> un contenido<\/span> social a la independencia<\/span>. Hemos<\/span> mantenido<\/span> algunas<\/span> reuniones<\/span> con ellos<\/span> desde<\/span> que<\/span> decidieron<\/span> orientar<\/span> tambi\u00e9n<\/span> su<\/span> reivindicaci\u00f3n<\/span> hacia<\/span> qu\u00e9<\/span> Catalu\u00f1a<\/span> queremos<\/span>. No limitarse<\/span> s\u00f3lo<\/span> a la reclamaci\u00f3n<\/span> de una<\/span> Catalu\u00f1a<\/span> independiente<\/span>. En este<\/span> sentido<\/span>, se han<\/span> acercado<\/span> a nuestras<\/span> posiciones<\/span>. En cuanto<\/span> a la Diada<\/span>, a\u00fan<\/span> no se ha decidido<\/span> nada, pero<\/span> estamos<\/span> abiertos<\/span> a pactar<\/span> la forma de colaboraci\u00f3n<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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\t\u00bfEst\u00e1<\/span> de acuerdo<\/span> en qu\u00e9<\/span> el debate nacional<\/span> ha eclipsado<\/span> la vertiente<\/span> social, en qu\u00e9<\/span> ha dejado<\/span> de lado<\/span> el incremento<\/span> de la desigualdad<\/span> en Catalu\u00f1a<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tLo llevamos<\/span> diciendo<\/span> desde<\/span> el primer d\u00eda<\/span>. El debate nacional<\/span> no puede<\/span> esconder<\/span> la cuesti\u00f3n<\/span> social. Esto<\/span> incluso<\/span> antes de comenzar<\/span> con Proc\u00e9s<\/span> Constituent, hab\u00eda<\/span> provocado<\/span> discusiones<\/span> en debates sobre<\/span> la independencia<\/span>. Pensamos<\/span> que<\/span> la independencia<\/span>, por<\/span> s\u00ed<\/span> sola<\/span>, no sirve<\/span> para<\/span> nada, debe<\/span> definirse<\/span> y dejar<\/span> claro<\/span> qu\u00e9<\/span> queremos<\/span> socialmente<\/span>. Este<\/span> debate debe<\/span> producirse<\/span> antes y durante<\/span> el proceso<\/span> y no despu\u00e9s<\/span>. Si lo \u00fanico<\/span> que<\/span> cambia con la independencia<\/span> es<\/span> que<\/span> en vez<\/span> de tener<\/span> la “\u00f1”<\/span> de Espa\u00f1a<\/span>, tenemos<\/span> la “ny”<\/span> de Catalunya<\/span>, y que<\/span> la bandera<\/span> tiene<\/span> cuatro<\/span> rayas<\/span> rojas<\/span> en vez<\/span> de dos, no servir\u00e1<\/span> de nada.<\/p>\n

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\tHace<\/span> poco<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> de dos semanas<\/span> Proc\u00e9s<\/span> Constituent se volvi\u00f3<\/span> a reunir<\/span> para<\/span> organizar<\/span> el desarrollo<\/span> de los contenidos<\/span> de su<\/span> manifiesto<\/span>, \u00bfser\u00e1<\/span> su<\/span> programa<\/span> base o servir\u00e1<\/span> tambi\u00e9n<\/span> de esquema<\/span> para<\/span> ese<\/span> frente<\/span> amplio<\/span> que<\/span> propugnan<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\tM\u00e1s<\/span> bien<\/span> una<\/span> base program\u00e1tica<\/span>. Una<\/span> hoja<\/span> de ruta<\/span> es<\/span> dif\u00edcil<\/span>, es<\/span> muy<\/span> aleatoria<\/span> en funci\u00f3n<\/span> de con qui\u00e9n<\/span> hablamos<\/span> y qu\u00e9<\/span> es<\/span> lo que<\/span> quieren<\/span>. Esa<\/span> propuesta<\/span> ya<\/span> la presentamos<\/span> a principios<\/span> de mayo y ahora<\/span> se trataba<\/span> de trabajar<\/span> con el contenido<\/span> pol\u00edtico<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfLa pol\u00edtica<\/span> europea<\/span> impuesta<\/span> por<\/span> la Troika est\u00e1<\/span> inspirada<\/span> por<\/span> el Club Bilderberg<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tEn la cuesti\u00f3n<\/span> de la Troika, tengo<\/span> la impresi\u00f3n<\/span> que<\/span> en estas<\/span> pol\u00edticas<\/span> comunitarias<\/span> han<\/span> desempe\u00f1ado<\/span> un papel<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> importante<\/span> la puerta<\/span> abierta<\/span> de la ortodoxia<\/span> financiera<\/span> y el neoliberalismo<\/span> que<\/span> no manos<\/span> oscuras<\/span>, que<\/span> funcionan<\/span> mejor<\/span> en la manipulaci\u00f3n<\/span> del precio<\/span> del petr\u00f3leo<\/span>, en fusiones<\/span> de empresas<\/span> o como<\/span> lobbies. Tengo<\/span> una<\/span> cierta<\/span> esperanza<\/span> que<\/span> el Club Bilderberg<\/span> est\u00e9<\/span> perdiendo<\/span> fuerza<\/span>, si<\/span> uno<\/span> revisa<\/span> su<\/span> composici\u00f3n<\/span> son todos<\/span> europeos<\/span> o norteamericanos<\/span>. Hoy<\/span> d\u00eda<\/span>, el poder<\/span> econ\u00f3mico<\/span> se est\u00e1<\/span> desplazando<\/span> principalmente<\/span> a Asia, as\u00ed<\/span> que<\/span> si<\/span> sigue<\/span> este<\/span> crecimiento<\/span>, a la que<\/span> se descuiden<\/span> habr\u00e1n<\/span> perdido<\/span> cualquier<\/span> poder<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfEse<\/span> desplazamiento<\/span> del poder<\/span> econ\u00f3mico<\/span> fuera<\/span> de Occidente<\/span> no puede<\/span> generar<\/span> una<\/span> resistencia<\/span> a abandonar<\/span> su<\/span> influencia<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tNo creo<\/span>. Dudo<\/span> mucho<\/span> que<\/span> quieran<\/span> eternizarse<\/span> porque<\/span> no pueden<\/span>. Habr\u00edan<\/span> buscado<\/span> socios<\/span> en China o la India, pero<\/span> a\u00fan<\/span> est\u00e1n<\/span> viviendo<\/span> como<\/span> si<\/span> no hubiese<\/span> sucedido<\/span> nada.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfUna<\/span> nueva<\/span> fiscalidad<\/span> es<\/span> una<\/span> posible<\/span> soluci\u00f3n<\/span>? \u00bfDebe<\/span> actuarse<\/span> ya<\/span> contra los para\u00edsos<\/span> fiscales<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tEse<\/span> es<\/span> nuestro<\/span> primer punto<\/span> del programa<\/span>: la desaparici\u00f3n<\/span> de los para\u00edsos<\/span> fiscales<\/span>. Esta<\/span> desaparici\u00f3n<\/span> debe<\/span> ir<\/span> unida<\/span> al desarrollo<\/span> de una<\/span> banca<\/span> \u00e9tica<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfBCN<\/span> World es<\/span> la soluci\u00f3n<\/span> para<\/span> crear<\/span> empleo<\/span> en Catalu\u00f1a<\/span>? \u00bfEs<\/span> una<\/span> inversi\u00f3n<\/span> “de pa\u00eds”<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tSon terrenos<\/span> de la Caixa<\/span>, con un inversor<\/span> dudoso<\/span> y con lo que<\/span> CiU<\/span> aprovecha<\/span> para<\/span> lavarse<\/span> la cara<\/span> despu\u00e9s<\/span> de que<\/span> se le escapase<\/span> el fiasco de Eurovegas<\/span>. En cinco<\/span> minutos<\/span> se acabar\u00e1<\/span> eso<\/span>. Es<\/span> muy<\/span> triste<\/span> que<\/span> ese<\/span> sea la \u00fanica<\/span> esperanza<\/span> que<\/span> CiU<\/span> ofrece<\/span> al pa\u00eds<\/span>. Si quieren<\/span> crear<\/span> empleos<\/span> que<\/span> se preocupen<\/span> por<\/span> la industria<\/span> y la tecnolog\u00eda<\/span>. Entre<\/span> los partidos<\/span> del Parlament<\/span> es<\/span> escasa<\/span> la oposici\u00f3n<\/span> que<\/span> hay a este<\/span> proyecto<\/span>…<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfEl efecto<\/span> de la corrupci\u00f3n<\/span> en los grandes<\/span> partidos<\/span> les seguir\u00e1<\/span> pasando<\/span> factura<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\tHasta<\/span> ahora<\/span> pensaban<\/span> que<\/span> ten\u00edan<\/span> una<\/span> opini\u00f3n<\/span> p\u00fablica<\/span> muy<\/span> condescendiente<\/span>, que<\/span> les pasaba<\/span> cualquier<\/span> cosa<\/span>. En Espa\u00f1a<\/span> tenemos<\/span> una<\/span> opini\u00f3n<\/span> p\u00fablica<\/span> atontada<\/span>. La gente<\/span> es<\/span> bastante<\/span> ignorante<\/span> y se despreocupa<\/span> mucho<\/span> de la vida<\/span> pol\u00edtica<\/span>, y eso<\/span> que<\/span> tiene<\/span> un efecto<\/span> constante<\/span> en su<\/span> d\u00eda<\/span> a d\u00eda<\/span>. Es<\/span> por<\/span> eso<\/span> que<\/span> pedimos<\/span> la movilizaci\u00f3n<\/span> y un cambio<\/span> en el sentido<\/span> del voto<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfS\u00f3lo<\/span> nos movilizamos<\/span> por<\/span> cuestiones<\/span> personales<\/span>?<\/strong>
\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tBueno<\/span>, el 15M<\/span> rompe<\/span> esa<\/span> manera<\/span> de actuar<\/span> e impulsa<\/span> una<\/span> movilizaci\u00f3n<\/span> por<\/span> temas<\/span> muchas<\/span> veces<\/span> ajenos<\/span>. Como es<\/span> el caso<\/span> de mucha<\/span> gente<\/span> que<\/span> se acerca<\/span> a la PAH<\/span>, de todas<\/span> las<\/span> personas que<\/span> defienden<\/span> la sanidad<\/span> y la educaci\u00f3n<\/span> a trav\u00e9s<\/span> de las<\/span> mareas<\/span>. En este<\/span> sentido<\/span> hay que<\/span> hablar<\/span> de la responsabilidad<\/span> que<\/span> tienen<\/span> los medios<\/span> de comunicaci\u00f3n<\/span> mayoritarios<\/span> en la inacci\u00f3n<\/span> de la sociedad<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfHacia<\/span> d\u00f3nde<\/span> se dirige<\/span> una<\/span> sociedad<\/span> as\u00ed<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tCada<\/span> vez<\/span> iremos<\/span> a peor<\/span>, lo inteligente<\/span>, y esto<\/span> es<\/span> una<\/span> evidencia<\/span>, es<\/span> pararlo<\/span> cuanto<\/span> antes. Hemos<\/span> recibido<\/span> ya<\/span> muchas<\/span> advertencias<\/span> de lo que<\/span> est\u00e1<\/span> ocurriendo<\/span>. Si la gente<\/span> no hace<\/span> nada ser\u00e1<\/span> un enorme<\/span> fracaso<\/span> y ser\u00e1<\/span> muy<\/span> triste<\/span>, porque<\/span> crecer\u00e1<\/span> el sufrimiento<\/span> y el malestar<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfTreinta<\/span> a\u00f1os<\/span> dan<\/span> para<\/span> conseguir<\/span> una<\/span> tradici\u00f3n<\/span> democr\u00e1tica<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tEs<\/span> una<\/span> democracia<\/span> tan precaria<\/span> y tan corrupta<\/span> que<\/span> no ha generado<\/span> confianza<\/span> en la gente<\/span>. No es<\/span> posible<\/span> crear<\/span> una<\/span> tradici\u00f3n<\/span> democr\u00e1tica<\/span> sin una<\/span> base democr\u00e1tica<\/span>. La actual situaci\u00f3n<\/span> pol\u00edtica<\/span> no es<\/span> m\u00e1s<\/span> que<\/span> un reflejo<\/span> de esto<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tSi esta<\/span> candidatura<\/span> unitaria<\/span> que<\/span> impulsa<\/span> Proc\u00e8s<\/span> Constituent para<\/span> las<\/span> elecciones<\/span> catalanas<\/span> acaba<\/span> por<\/span> no constituirse<\/span>, \u00bfse considerar\u00e1<\/span> un fracaso<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tNo, seguiremos<\/span> intent\u00e1ndolo<\/span> para<\/span> una<\/span> pr\u00f3xima<\/span> convocatoria<\/span> electoral y si<\/span> no, seguiremos<\/span> con estas<\/span> sinergias<\/span>, difundiendo<\/span> estos<\/span> documentos<\/span> de trabajo<\/span>. Todas<\/span> estas<\/span> voluntades<\/span> y deseos<\/span> finalizan<\/span> con resultados<\/span> concretos<\/span>, a veces<\/span> las<\/span> luchas<\/span> acaban<\/span> en \u00e9xitos<\/span> y otras<\/span> fracasan<\/span>, o simplemente<\/span> se agotan<\/span>. Si no nos hacen<\/span> caso<\/span>, no podemos<\/span> hacer<\/span> nada m\u00e1s<\/span> que<\/span> continuar<\/span> con nuestro<\/span> trabajo<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tLas elecciones<\/span> europeas<\/span> han<\/span> puesto<\/span> de relieve la fortaleza<\/span> de la extrema<\/span> derecha<\/span> en Europa<\/span> y la ca\u00edda<\/span> moderada<\/span> de conservadores<\/span> y socialdemocr\u00e1tas<\/span>.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tEl euroesceptismo<\/span> es<\/span> muy<\/span> peligroso<\/span> y provoca<\/span> que<\/span> los extremos<\/span> pol\u00edticos<\/span> se toquen<\/span>. Nosotros<\/span> criticamos<\/span> el euro, las<\/span> pol\u00edticas<\/span> neoliberales<\/span>, el trato<\/span> a la inmigraci\u00f3n<\/span>, con discursos<\/span> en algunos<\/span> de estos<\/span> \u00e1mbitos<\/span> que<\/span> nos ponen<\/span> en riesgo<\/span> por<\/span> una<\/span> posible<\/span> identificaci\u00f3n<\/span> con lo que<\/span> defiende<\/span> por<\/span> ejemplo<\/span>, Le Pen y su<\/span> Frente<\/span> Nacional<\/span>. Hay que<\/span> distinguir<\/span> y diferenciar<\/span> bien<\/span>, y dejar<\/span> claro<\/span> porqu\u00e9<\/span> no quieres<\/span> unas<\/span> determinadas<\/span> cosas<\/span> de Europa<\/span>. Nosotros<\/span> queremos<\/span> otra<\/span> Europa<\/span>, m\u00e1s<\/span> democr\u00e1tica<\/span> y popular, no \u00e9sta<\/span>, creada<\/span> por<\/span> la derecha<\/span> y que<\/span> han<\/span> sabido<\/span> vender muy<\/span> bien<\/span>. Europa<\/span> naci\u00f3<\/span> con dos caras<\/span>, una<\/span> fraternal, de evitar<\/span> las<\/span> guerras<\/span> entre<\/span> europeos<\/span>, y otra<\/span>, con la voluntad<\/span> de plantar cara<\/span> a la Uni\u00f3n<\/span> Sovi\u00e9tica<\/span> y tambi\u00e9n<\/span> a los Estados<\/span> Unidos<\/span>, de reemerger<\/span> como<\/span> potencia<\/span> mundial<\/span>.<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfY qu\u00e9<\/span> cara<\/span> domina<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tHay intereses<\/span> divergentes<\/span> entre<\/span> los estados<\/span> miembros<\/span>. Se est\u00e1<\/span> viendo<\/span> en Ucrania<\/span> con la incapacidad<\/span> de la UE<\/span> de actuar<\/span>. Para los ucranianos<\/span> parece<\/span> que<\/span> s\u00f3lo<\/span> hay la posibilidad<\/span> de caer<\/span> en manos<\/span> de intereses<\/span> alemanes<\/span> o de intereses<\/span> rusos<\/span>. \u00bfQu\u00e9<\/span> les espera<\/span> a esta<\/span> gente<\/span>?<\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\t\u00bfY a Catalu\u00f1a<\/span> que<\/span> le espera<\/span> si<\/span> se queda<\/span> sola<\/span>?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\t\u00a0<\/p>\n

\tAlgunos<\/span> saben<\/span> ir<\/span> solos. Noruega<\/span> funciona<\/span> razonablemente<\/span> bien<\/span>. Si algunos<\/span> lo han<\/span> hecho<\/span>, \u00bfporqu\u00e9<\/span> no nosotros<\/span>? Y si<\/span> adem\u00e1s<\/span> lo hacemos<\/span> mejor<\/span>, pues<\/span> no ser\u00eda<\/span> ning\u00fan<\/span> problema<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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